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satalasers Jesus Christ.
- This was not a happy show, but it was a good show. It was compelling and I couldn't really ever look away, even if I felt at times, during the last part, it sort of over-complicated itself.
- I think what I liked about it was the way it treated it's characters. I liked the mystery of Johann and Nina, and how every time you thought you had an answer, something would come out of left field and flip that on its head.
- I also liked -- well, knowing things that the characters did not. Like, the connection between Roberto and Grimmer. Both characters died, and never knew that they were once friends, but I -- *I* know that they were.
- I know Johann should be most hated character, but -- his enigmaticness was really kind of thought provoking, but I hated Roberto so much more. EVEN THOUGH JOHANN WAS IRREDEEMABLE. I just -- god, Roberto creeped me out too. I've tried figuring out why, I wondered if it was Johann was beautiful, and Roberto was not, and I don't think that's it. I spent a good portion of the series wondering what Johann's motives were, and wondering why Roberto was so loyal to Johann -- and yes, they answer the latter, and sort of answer the former, but I also think the fact that Roberto enjoys being evil and murderous somehow feels more disconcerting than how Johann operates, who I never feel you can truly understand his character, or his sincerity.
- I don't know what to think about his friendship with Karl. Why do ANY of it?
- On the other hand, the only thing I can genuinely believe in Johann is that he loves Nina. It may come out in some truly twisted way, but -- it is the one thing I know is true about him.
- I liked that Tenma and Nina weren't in love with each other. Like, I was mildly terrified they were going to be, but they never struck me as particularly romantic TBH? They became close because they suffered because of Johann, and neither of them wished the other to kill Johann, believing it was their duty, but it was more platonic than I thought it would be. Also: because Tenma was in his midtwenties (I think), when he met Nina, who was like, 11, that also put me off the ship, but nothing made me think 'oh no, they're in love' after the nine year timeskip, so I'm kind of delighted by that.
- Of course I cried over Grimmer. His journey, his backstory, his longing to have emotions, and not understanding them, not understanding how a person feels/emotes, and dying -- he broke my heart.
- The music was great. Really lovely and creepy.
- Y'know, I got kind of attached to Runge/Lunge. I liked him far more than I thought I would.
- Actually I got really attached to anyone who became Team Tenma, who knew? I didn't think I would like Tenma that much, based on the first episode, but his constantly shocked expressions, his unfailing kindness, and struggle to kill, were a constant mood TBH. (Maybe not the killing, but I did wonder how Johann was going to die.)
- I liked Dieter! I thought he was great!
- I cannot believe how cool the psychiatrist was! He was so great! I loved him putting pieces together. I loved him and Gillen working together.
- I didn't like Eva, but I really did grow to appreciate her role in the story which lead up to her eventual change of heart, so by the end, I did really like her. I never wanted her to die, even if I was like omg no, why are you here Roberto? but that it more because Roberto creeped me out a heckton.
- I mean, I know Johann's presence was minimal, making it effective whenever he did appear, but the way I thought Roberto died, and he comes back? In some incredible terrifying ways, just because people don't know how awful he is, but I do? Oh, man, he made me so uncomfortable.
- Also, I guess: re: Eva: Martin. Martin/Eva was a ship that I didn't expect to like to much. And feel sad over.
- There was something so good about the intricacies about this plot, how careful and interwoven it feels. I do think it needs a rewatch/reread to properly make sense of it, because my head hurts a little bit after watching it, but I really did like it a lot.
- It was a surprisingly happy ending though? In a way that feels realistic, though? Which is weird because this show really put you through the wringer, but on the whole: yeah, it was a good ending! So, I think, that increased my feelings of positivity about it TBH.
Over all, it was a really good experience, and I kind of want to read the manga to see how it compares. 10/10, because I knew nothing about this manga, and that's the way it should be to properly enjoy something. It feels wierd to say that 'I like it', but it -- it moved me, I think, and it was an experience that was thought provoking, even if at times I do think it was intentionally murky.
Also, that ending shot is a bit: hm, not sure I like that.
- This was not a happy show, but it was a good show. It was compelling and I couldn't really ever look away, even if I felt at times, during the last part, it sort of over-complicated itself.
- I think what I liked about it was the way it treated it's characters. I liked the mystery of Johann and Nina, and how every time you thought you had an answer, something would come out of left field and flip that on its head.
- I also liked -- well, knowing things that the characters did not. Like, the connection between Roberto and Grimmer. Both characters died, and never knew that they were once friends, but I -- *I* know that they were.
- I know Johann should be most hated character, but -- his enigmaticness was really kind of thought provoking, but I hated Roberto so much more. EVEN THOUGH JOHANN WAS IRREDEEMABLE. I just -- god, Roberto creeped me out too. I've tried figuring out why, I wondered if it was Johann was beautiful, and Roberto was not, and I don't think that's it. I spent a good portion of the series wondering what Johann's motives were, and wondering why Roberto was so loyal to Johann -- and yes, they answer the latter, and sort of answer the former, but I also think the fact that Roberto enjoys being evil and murderous somehow feels more disconcerting than how Johann operates, who I never feel you can truly understand his character, or his sincerity.
- I don't know what to think about his friendship with Karl. Why do ANY of it?
- On the other hand, the only thing I can genuinely believe in Johann is that he loves Nina. It may come out in some truly twisted way, but -- it is the one thing I know is true about him.
- I liked that Tenma and Nina weren't in love with each other. Like, I was mildly terrified they were going to be, but they never struck me as particularly romantic TBH? They became close because they suffered because of Johann, and neither of them wished the other to kill Johann, believing it was their duty, but it was more platonic than I thought it would be. Also: because Tenma was in his midtwenties (I think), when he met Nina, who was like, 11, that also put me off the ship, but nothing made me think 'oh no, they're in love' after the nine year timeskip, so I'm kind of delighted by that.
- Of course I cried over Grimmer. His journey, his backstory, his longing to have emotions, and not understanding them, not understanding how a person feels/emotes, and dying -- he broke my heart.
- The music was great. Really lovely and creepy.
- Y'know, I got kind of attached to Runge/Lunge. I liked him far more than I thought I would.
- Actually I got really attached to anyone who became Team Tenma, who knew? I didn't think I would like Tenma that much, based on the first episode, but his constantly shocked expressions, his unfailing kindness, and struggle to kill, were a constant mood TBH. (Maybe not the killing, but I did wonder how Johann was going to die.)
- I liked Dieter! I thought he was great!
- I cannot believe how cool the psychiatrist was! He was so great! I loved him putting pieces together. I loved him and Gillen working together.
- I didn't like Eva, but I really did grow to appreciate her role in the story which lead up to her eventual change of heart, so by the end, I did really like her. I never wanted her to die, even if I was like omg no, why are you here Roberto? but that it more because Roberto creeped me out a heckton.
- I mean, I know Johann's presence was minimal, making it effective whenever he did appear, but the way I thought Roberto died, and he comes back? In some incredible terrifying ways, just because people don't know how awful he is, but I do? Oh, man, he made me so uncomfortable.
- Also, I guess: re: Eva: Martin. Martin/Eva was a ship that I didn't expect to like to much. And feel sad over.
- There was something so good about the intricacies about this plot, how careful and interwoven it feels. I do think it needs a rewatch/reread to properly make sense of it, because my head hurts a little bit after watching it, but I really did like it a lot.
- It was a surprisingly happy ending though? In a way that feels realistic, though? Which is weird because this show really put you through the wringer, but on the whole: yeah, it was a good ending! So, I think, that increased my feelings of positivity about it TBH.
Over all, it was a really good experience, and I kind of want to read the manga to see how it compares. 10/10, because I knew nothing about this manga, and that's the way it should be to properly enjoy something. It feels wierd to say that 'I like it', but it -- it moved me, I think, and it was an experience that was thought provoking, even if at times I do think it was intentionally murky.
Also, that ending shot is a bit: hm, not sure I like that.
